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August 22nd, 2006

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From:dafne99
Date:August 22nd, 2006 04:03 pm (UTC)
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I have a better idea! Why don't we all just join the Communist Party!?
You know, that Big Brother idea really appealed to me... an all knowing, all seeing government that even controlls our thoughts, yeah, now that's my type of government!
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From:john_holton
Date:August 22nd, 2006 04:21 pm (UTC)
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I really have to wonder about some people sometimes. There are those who--no kidding--will read this article and (a) agree with the author that people who don't like government ought not be allowed to run it, (b) insist that the type of government that controls everything, including our thoughts, exists right here and now under Chimpy McSmirk BusHitler, (c) the way to fix it is to put the government under the control of people who LIKE big government and let it get even BIGGER and more intrusive, and (d) somehow we're going to be freer and have less intrusion into our lives if (c) were to happen. Many of those people read this journal.

I see we think alike....
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From:wingguy
Date:August 22nd, 2006 06:20 pm (UTC)
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Abject hatred is really corrosive. It causes otherwise intelligent people to make the most absurd assertions. Along that line, hearing people express item (b) is the thing that rankles me most i.e we're living in a police state, it's now permissible to beat up gays, our Constitutional freedoms have already been abridged, George Bush is a Nazi, and my all time favorite "Bush may not leave office when his term expires".

But for pure arrogance, nothing beats the belief that we hicks out here in Middle America just aren't smart enough to vote in our own best interest. Democrats will regain control of government someday, but not until they start trying to win us over instead of writing us off as idiots.
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From:john_holton
Date:August 22nd, 2006 07:21 pm (UTC)
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I think there were people saying that Clinton wasn't going to leave office at the end of his term, too. Seems to me he took the approach that whatever he couldn't get via working with Congress he got by issuing an executive order.

The Democrats have convinced themselves that, because they have a majority in the northeast, the west coast, and a few of the major cities in between, and because for years they have been good at stuffing the ballot box (I say this as a proud member of the Deceased and Relocated Voters of Illinois), eventually they can force themselves onto the rest of us ignorant slobs and reign over us. It's going to take a few years for them to get it through their thick-and-getting-thicker skulls that it's not going to work, by which time I'm certain they'll split into two parties and the more pragmatic half of them will end up defeating the far-left moonbats. Maybe the same thing will happen in the Republican Party as well, with the hard right losing out to the more Libertarian/(true) liberal wing. And, then, you'll have the people from all four parties breaking down into factions, and so on, until everyone is their own political party. I've already gotten started on that.
From:dafne99
Date:August 22nd, 2006 07:22 pm (UTC)
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Just the other day I read an email from a liberal acquaintance of mine (keeping in mind that he probably has an IQ somewhere around 120) that said that it was stupid that smaller populated states get equal say in the Senate. Can you just imagine what this country would be like if no one cared about the corn belt? We'd all starve! Literally! Bicameralism is what keeps this country alive and anyone who gives a rat's ass about America needs to learn about how government works and they need to teach others.
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From:john_holton
Date:August 22nd, 2006 11:06 pm (UTC)
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He seems to have forgotten (as have most of the people in this nation) that the House of Representatives (which allegedly represents the people) is allocated according to population, while the Senate (which is supposed to represent the states) gives two votes to each state, regardless of how many people or what "color" that state is. But again, this all ties back to what the guy was saying about the government being put in the hands of those who, in his humble opinion, represent the "best interests" of the nation (e.g. the Progressive agenda).
From:dafne99
Date:August 22nd, 2006 07:15 pm (UTC)
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I'm probably going to make a couple of enemies, but I just want to point out a thought I've been having recently. I'll attempt to tread lightly.
I've been thinking about all these government programs designed to help those less well off (especially now that I've been reading Rich Dad, Poor Dad). I keep wondering how they are so different from Communism.
It seems we've put ourselves in this trap of the middle class supporting the poor. Everyone who pays taxes works for 5-1/2 months or so just to pay the government. Out of that money that is sent to the government every year, we have to fund Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, etc. so that people who don't plan for retirement or who don't have jobs can live off of our paychecks. Robin Hood was a Communist. Why not just throw all our earnings into a big pool and whomever needs some can take it out at their leisure?
Why should I work? Why don't I just divorce my husband, take my kids & live in section 8 housing paid for by my welfare check, feed my kids food bought by WIC, take them to doctors paid for by Medicaid, send them to daycare paid for by the government so that I can use the Pell grant to pay for me to go to college. You know, I've had people tell me to do just almost that same thing and I just look at them like they're on crack. I cannot imagine having so little pride as to allow the government to raise my family. But there are many who do.
Communism breeds laziness. When you don't get to keep what you work for, then why bother working? When every man works for himself, he quickly sees that he will starve if he doesn't get up off his ass. How many people in America are starving? Yes, I know there are there are real problems with hunger and poverty in this country, but there are many government programs designed to help those people... it was more of a rhetorical question. But, you see, that's the point! People who really work and fall on hard times and are too proud to accept handouts have to work EXTRA hard to pay taxes to support those who refuse to work because the government will supply their lifestyle for them!
America has become a Communist country run by the ultra-rich who are exempt from paying taxes because they run the government and they know all the loop-holes. And don't let anyone tell you that Rich = Republican. I really don't think that Al Heinz-Gore is standing in too many breadlines.
Let me just close with one final thought and a quick snapshot from my life. Big government = Communism, Small government = liberty for all. Just the other day I stood in line at the store behind a 16 year old pregnant girl who pulled her WIC card out of her Louis Vuitton purse to pay for her groceries. *blink* My purse came from Walmart... but I bet if I didn't have to buy my own groceries I could afford a Louis Vuitton, too.
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From:john_holton
Date:August 22nd, 2006 11:28 pm (UTC)
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Helping people out who need help is a good thing. That's what churches and other charitable organizations do, but they also deliver a good kick in the ass to get their clients up and out the door. When the government does it, you end up with what we have now, a road to hell paved with what were originally good intentions but which have been co-opted by those who see "the needy" as potential support for their political campaigns.

I found myself without a job in June, 2004. It would have been very easy to just sit back and let the government take care of me, but that's not the way I was raised, and that's not what I did. I began contracting and have so far been able to put food on the table with what I earn and with what I had saved all those years. I still don't have health insurance, but I gave up waiting for Hillary Clinton to parachute onto my front lawn...

Your point about the liberals being the wealthy ones has been noted by no less a wise guy than Don Surber, one of the few mainstream media journalists I actually trust. His blog is excellent and daily reading for me. I honestly believe that the Democrats are less interested in making things better for the "working classes" (a term coined by Marx, used in a classless society, let me point out) than they are in maintaining the status quo for their wealthiest members and contributors. Hell, George Soros, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, three of the wealthiest people in this country, if not the world, are all Democrats, or support Democrats. There's got to be a reason for that. But, they insist on continuing this fiction that reads "the Republicans are only interested in the rich, we're in it for the little guy." And there are plenty in this country (and here on LiveJournal, in case you haven't noticed) who still believe it and who trumpet that fiction wherever they go.

They prefer the term "progressive", by the way. Call them Socialists or Communists (which is essentially the same thing) and they'll start with their screaming about McCarthyism and "you're a fascist". Never mind that their ideological fathers are Lenin, Mao and Stalin.

We think alike. That's scary. Maybe we should write that script....
From:dafne99
Date:August 23rd, 2006 05:01 am (UTC)
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I've named her Sam... something that can be mistaken for a boy's name. The first episode will be the two of them hanging out & everyone's all "look! he's got a little friend!" because they think she's a boy (baggy clothes, ball cap & whatnot). Then at the end someone walks in & sees them in the middle of their first kiss & that's where that episode ends. The next episode deals with everyone thinking he's gay & eventually dad confronts him & says he's cool with it & maybe even tells him a little near-gay experience he had in college or something. This is all with Sam right there with him. Then Sam whips off her cap & says she's a chick... oh yeah, I've put some thought into this. I think Sam should leave after the third episode. He should walk in one day without her & Dad "says what happened to Sam?" Boy says something like "girls take too much effort" (which should echo something big in Dad's life) & that's that. I am just picturing all the facial expressions & need to really sit down & write some stuff out... but that would take too much effort. ;)
From:dafne99
Date:August 23rd, 2006 05:03 am (UTC)
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And government funded health care is a crock. Have you ever heard about all the problems with Canadian health care? I've heard horror stories about people waiting weeks to have a broken bone set. Yeah, the public needs to be more educated on the truth of the matters before they get all gung-ho on a subject.
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From:john_holton
Date:August 23rd, 2006 02:21 pm (UTC)
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Health care has gotten so bad in Canada that people are suing to be allowed to purchase private health insurance and bypass the government health care system. I've heard comments that the reason socialized medicine works so well in Canada is that the United States is just south of their border. There are clinics in New York state, Cleveland, and Detroit that cater specifically to Canadians. A friend of mine watched her mother suffer needlessly simply because they were on a waiting list behind people who were adjudged to be "sicker".

Of course, you're never going to hear this from the mainstream press and media, who have all but crowned Hillary Clinton as the next queen president. Expect socialized medicine to be big on her agenda for the 2008 campaign; I think it's already part of the Democrats' platform. And don't for a minute believe that it's because they actually give a rat's ass about "working people"; they just want control over the pharmaceutical industry and every doctor in this country.

I could go into a long and boring discussion of market economics here, but I think I'd be singing to the choir...
From:dafne99
Date:August 23rd, 2006 03:22 pm (UTC)
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I'm glad to be living in the only state that still has the right to secede. We can only hope & pray that there are enough people smart enough to research the subject to keep socialist health care from happening.

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